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Domino · Jul 25, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

World of Warcraft has so many features, races, content, and things to do that it's amazing. And I hate to say it, but WoW had FAR less idiots than GW has. However, I found myself losing interest in it for several reasons

WoW rewards time spent. If you grind more, you'll beat out someone who didn't grind as much in PvP. It doesn't matter how skilled you are, if you aren't willing to grind for the ultra equipment, you will never be able to beat someone that does. It's all about the equipment, and the numbers. Grind grind grind, and then grind some more. Kill 10000 lobsters, and collect 5000 bug eyes... it was just overwhelming, and as a college student with a job, I simply don't have the kind of time to grind all day long.

WoW's monthly fee is annoying. I don't want to have to worry about whether "I'm getting my money's worth" or not. Call me old-fashioned, but I grew up in the 80's and early 90's where when you bought a game, that was that. I find it hard to justify a monthly fee, especially for a game, unless I'm getting something REALLY significant (So far I've yet to find a game significant enough to be worth a recurring monthly fee)... In WoW I always felt like I should be doing something because I was, after all, paying for this experience. I'd much rather have the freedom to goof around with guildies in GW and not worry about "wasting money".

On top of that, I found WoW's style way to kiddy for my taste. At least Guild Wars has some semi-realism in it's character models and monsters. WoW's artistic style is too over the top, everything is exaggerated... from textures, to the color of armor, to the size of everything.

Right now, Guild Wars satisfies my online gaming requirements. However, Neverwinter Nights 2 seems to be eyeing for the position, so let's hope that Guild Wars continues to be fun and immersive.

lightblade · Jul 25, 2006, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Nightfall.

I don't play WoW and it's gameplay does not interest me. All it do is put what other MMORPG have together in one game. If you played through as many beta tests as I do, you'll think WoW sucks too.

Other than because I hate WoW...

From the description of what Nightfall have (from xMikex's post, thx), Nightfall have a lot to promise. The customizable henchmen and a 1v1 with NPC? Well, I really wished it could be 1v1 with some players. Although I'm not that interested in the two new professions, I do like to see some new core profession skills (for my sexy mesmer :P).

woeye · Jul 25, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

I used to play WoW for quite some time. However I cancelled my account for there wasn't anything to do for me after reaching level 60. Endless raiding and grinding for better and better items is not the kind of gameplay I enjoy

As someone above stated PvP in WoW is mostly 1vs1 even in "teams". But hey, WoW has a lot of subscribers and the PvP servers are pretty much crowded. I'd say that the majority of players prefer 1vs1 PvP. Team play is not for everyone, especially for the human race - hehehe

Personally I play GW because I want to have fun with friends, both in PvE and PvP.

However I know a lot of fellow WoW players who seek for a new game. Those who prefer PvE are waiting for Vanguard while the PvP crowd is wating for Warhammer. So far BC seems nothing to offer but the same grind fest as before. And now that Blizzard has announced that the Alliance will get access to the Shaman class and the Horde to the Paladin class the lore of Warcraft is ruined completely which is a big hit in the face for role playing folks

Nexium · Jul 25, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47

i Never liked WoW there for i see no reason Too Buy Original wow and on top of that An expansion.

WoW For Kid's
GW For Men
Graphic's And Gameplay say's it all..

woeye · Jul 25, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12

I agree with you that GW requires more skill compared to WoW. However, I wouldn't say that WoW is for "kids" and GW for "men". Whenever I read the local channel in most cities I often doubt that GW is for "men". Instead it seems to be for the so called "733D" crowd ;-)
Not to speak about team building problems. When I switched to GW I really was shocked how unfriendly, immature and selfish the community was. But fortunately I got to know some very, very nice people and a very nice guild so I changed my mind ;-)

Slainster · Jul 25, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Come on Guild Wars!!

sigried · Jul 25, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

id say both im a fan of both but im a GW extream player

T Lo · Jul 25, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

BC is guaranteed to sell more. no way it can't.

Best nightfall could do to hurt their sales is to delay people from picking up BC.

The recent news that alliance will get shamans got even ME excited to play the game again. I could care less about the stupid lore in te game, I want to have fun, and PvE is not fun. Hence why I play GW.

Dark Suoon · Jul 25, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

after wut i saw for nightfall im going for nightfall

unholy guardian · Jul 25, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopGun

"But the $15 is the cost of a movie! Surely you could give up a movie!"

Yeah, dumbass, but I don't want to give up the girl that I bring to it.

it seems a lot of people i know that play world of warcraft don't seem to have that problem

They are too busy for a gf when this conversation happens on gw

TS - we need more for a raid

person - zomg need WoW

person- *phone*- er i'm going to have to cancel our date tonight honey

gf - why?

person- i need to go raid a castle

gf- how come you never want to raid my castle?

person- because there's not enough loot

gf- *hangs up*

person - that went better than i thought

TS- One of us, one of us

Raulence · Jul 26, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Lets try to think the problem this way.

I bought Guild Wars chapter one at Oct, 2005. Cost : AU$90.

I bought Guild Wars chatpter two at March, 2006. Cost : AU$90.

If i will buy Guild Wars chapter three at ? (we say Dec, 2006.) Cost: AU$90

Totoally, in one year, Guild Wars cost me AU$270.
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I bought WOW at March, 2006. Cost: AU$50(Brand New low price in australia)

I will buy WOW: BC. Cost: AU$50 (Have no idea, pre-order is $39 in USA)

Nine Month. Playing fees: AU$180.

Totally, in 9 month, WOW cost me AU$280.
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I dont think it will be another expansion for WOW. at least in the following one year.

However, you might have more Guild Wars: Expansion. every 6 month.

So in 2007, if i am playing for another whole year.
WOW ---------> 12 month AU$240.
Guild Wars ---------> 12 month AU$180.
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From the point of cost, there is not much difference, actually.

But which game is more interesting?

Compared with GW:F, i will choose WOW. I am really bored after a month playing GW:F. And the point is, after GW:F, i don't want to go back GW:P either.

If Anet still make the new expansion like GW:F, i believe most ppl will leave this game.

merdle · Jul 26, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39

what is 90 AU$ in American dollars, roughly? cause the price difference between wow and GW there seems pretty steep...

heck, at that pricing you may as well continue playing wow. lol

Either way, i'm very anti-wow, for a multitude of reasons. So nightfall is for me.

Raulence · Jul 26, 2006, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Normally, AU$1 = US$0.75^

Moreover, if ANet had already planned to make expansions for GW:P. They should at least have 1 year to develop the GW:F. If they decided there will be another expansion after GW:F, Nightfall will only have 6 month to design, and develop. If GW:F disappointed lots of gamers, i don't think it is a good idea to put your hope and expectation in a game developed within six month.

Unless, GW:F and GW:N were actually a whole game. They got devided into two for the profit since there was no monthly fee. In other case, if Anet actally mainly focused in GW:N, GW:F was just a way to earn some money.

Then, you can cross your fingers and say "I am expecting!"

bart · Jul 26, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

ahh well I just started WoW 2 months ago (so many things to do, so many things to see!) after getting bored with Factions (haven't finished the game) :P ... so BC for me!

Dark Dragon · Jul 26, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

i've never played WoW or have any intention of due to monthly fees but from what i've read about BC and WoW

burning crusade will easily make more sales than GW:N.
Because it seems to me that WoW is a very much equipment/lvl based game, and BC will rasie the lvl cap bring new weapons so you will HAVE to buy it to have a chance to remain competitive.

GW:N is another chapter, the skill involved, lvl, equipment stats hasn't changed and may people seem to be apprehensive about purchasing it after GW:F. Therefore you don't have to buy it to remain competitive in the game therefore less sales.

and BC has a bigger player base 6million from what i heard, vs about 2million not sure on figures but thats 6millin people who must buy to stay competitve vs 2million who can buy it if they want

I play PvE anyway so i'm buying GW:N. Its the longest i've ever stayed playing the same game, so the best value for money ever.

it would be great it GW:N beat BC in the sales though

Aisius · Jul 26, 2006, 08:43 AM // 08:43

I will keep playing guild wars and Nightfall.

Although having played wow for 3 yrs I'll likely buy there expansion load it up , then try and transfer my characters back to the pve realm I started on ($$

) I really hate and despise wow in pvp but maybe with some changes (patched-expansion) I can with stand a return to the pve aspects.

Lady Lozza · Jul 26, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Raulence, I've no idea how you managed to get WoW so cheap, except if you bought online, in which case you simply CANNOT compare the prices of the games.

Prices at EB in Australia for GW and for WoW are EXACTLY the same: $89.95
Without being on sale, without having a discount.

Buying GW from overseas stores yields a price of roughly $70, depending on exchange rate. Buying GW from NCSoft gives a price of roughly $60.
Overseas stores also list the two games for the same price, without sales or discounts.

My point is that evidently you didn't buy the two games under the same conditions, so therefore your comparison is not only inaccruate, but down right misleading.

Voltar · Jul 26, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

yeah because grinding to 60 was so fun...

60-70 is going to be AWESOME!

there's a trinket in wow that pretty much summarizes the whole game:
carrot on a stick. (took me about a month to catch on to that)

MOMMA, I DON'T WANNA GRIND ANYMORE REPUTATION/LEVELS/EPICS!

pretty happy with the interesting things they added in factions. anticipating they're going to keep that up now.